Rear Speakers

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shadowarrior
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Hi Guys,

Was wondering how to get to the rear speakers on our IO. And what size speakers are in there? Are they 6X9s?

Cheers,

Sidds

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'99 Mitsubishi Pajero IO 5dr 1.8l manual (sold)

'97 Mitsubishi FTO GPX

'01 Kawasaki ZRX1200S (sold)

'15 Mitsubishi Challenger

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fordem
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6.5" round

Pull the rear door seal off and then pull the speaker grilles free (they just clip in) - after that you can unscrew the speakers - they are a cheap 6.5" circular paper cone with a "whizzer", I believe identical to the front ones.  I think they sound amazingly good for what they are.

shadowarrior
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Yep found them. Came here to

Yep found them. Came here to post how to get to them and saw your reply. :)

Agreed, they sound reallly good. I was expecting a 6X9 there. Hmm will check if there is any way to fit a 6X9 in that slot...drill some holes maybe? If not, am getting two 6inch Pioneer free with the headunit am picking up tomorrow, should be a good replacement.

I changed the front ones to Alpine Type R's and has an old Kenwood headunit playing songs through the aux in. 

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'99 Mitsubishi Pajero IO 5dr 1.8l manual (sold)

'97 Mitsubishi FTO GPX

'01 Kawasaki ZRX1200S (sold)

'15 Mitsubishi Challenger

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bob_oz
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2 door

lucky you don't have a 2 door, pretty sure mine are behind the rear panneling

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shadowarrior
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Ouch! :\

Ouch! That's a pain in the ass job to get to! :| Think even some of the older Pajero (big engine models) had the speakers hidden behind the rear panneling. 

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'99 Mitsubishi Pajero IO 5dr 1.8l manual (sold)

'97 Mitsubishi FTO GPX

'01 Kawasaki ZRX1200S (sold)

'15 Mitsubishi Challenger

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rear

The rear paneling is pretty easy to remove.  I swapped out my rears a year ago and remember the job being pretty straight forward. 

bob_oz
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rear panneling

it is OK - just need to remove rear seats to remove panneling - was a pain to get belts and seats back in easily - I've only done it the once after I shipped a gearbox in the back and it flooded the rear with gear oil crying

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rear

bob_oz wrote:

it is OK - just need to remove rear seats to remove panneling - was a pain to get belts and seats back in easily - I've only done it the once after I shipped a gearbox in the back and it flooded the rear with gear oil crying

I never put my rear seats back in, so that would explain why it was so much more simplier for me.

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Just reviving this old thread

Just reviving this old thread to see if anyone had successfully installed 6x9's rear speakers in an iO?

I'm thinking about giving it a go but need to do some measuring up to see if its possible without major mods.

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I'm going to update this

I'm going to update this thread in the event that anyone else wishes to change the rear speakers in their (4 door) Io. 

 

Yes, the back speakers are 6.5 inch paper cone ones, but you can't just switch them with an off the shelf replacement. I went for a more bass driven replacement option and had to make MDF spacers to just about squeeze them into the apertures in the rear pillars. I think the only way you would get 6x9s in there would be with some serious modding to either the rear pillar structure or the plastic trim that covers the factory speakers. Not impossible if you are determined but not a quick job.

 

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6x9"

i'll be doing this shortly - nibbler + marine ply fixes anything :)

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I opted for 6.5 bassface

I opted for 6.5 bassface speakers and a sub instead.

shadowarrior
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I put in a 6.5 inch pioneer

I put in a 6.5 inch pioneer as well. I paid extra $10 plus the 6 inch free Pioneers I was getting to grab the 6.5 

Did a decent job but wasn't as bassy as the stock were. Ideal solution would have been to put a subwoofer, and filter high and low freqs via your head unit.

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'99 Mitsubishi Pajero IO 5dr 1.8l manual (sold)

'97 Mitsubishi FTO GPX

'01 Kawasaki ZRX1200S (sold)

'15 Mitsubishi Challenger

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Does anyone know what size

Does anyone know what size the front speakers are?  '99 iO

fordem
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If I recall correctly

6.5" round front & rear, at least on my 5 door.

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Thanks FORDEM 

Thanks FORDEM yes

I have spare new set of 5 1/4" Infinitys in the cupboard and was hoping they would be the ones! 

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More info for thread

Just to add some info to this thread - 1999 iO 5dr speakers.

Both front and rear speakers are almost identical (left is rear, right is front).  Both are paper cones but rear has a rougher surface whereas the front one is smooth.

Front speakers have a plastic mounting bracket and the part numbers for front and rear are the same except for one digit.

 

I am glad these are out though!  Now running Focal ISC 165 front and Pioneer TS-A1723i rear and wow what a difference!!

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Front speakers

Did you find the focal ISC 165 fit nice and snug in the front paper cones???

2002 5dr Pajero IO QA 2.0L Auto - Lifted, Locked!! 1.925 Low Range - Muddies (205/80/16) - Redback Extractors to 200cell cat to dump at diff Exhaust 

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No cones

I didn't use the original cones.  Instead I just drilled new holes and used four self tapping screws.  I also used some sound deadening on the back of the door skin and on the inside frame (mainly blocking up holes!)

So the speakers were sealed well and do not vibrate I put a layer of butyl tape around the edge of the speaker frame.

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Vibrations!

My front ones vibrate! Do you have a picture of what you did by any chance?

I will stuff around getting them seal/sit properly just need t ogo buy some 6.5" speakers!! Wooohooo!!

Sound much better than stock Mitsi ones I am presuming? 

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Sorry, no pics

Sorry but I did not take any pictures of this job.  It is very easy to do though.

Sound quality has been transformed!!!

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speaker time

Excellent to hear!!! Weekend project ahoy!

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Did anyone have to make an adapter plate?

I bought a pair of Blaupunkt 6.5" triaxials to put in my other car, only to discover that they are actually 6.75" and cannot fit in the cutouts - I tried them for size in the iO and the 6.75" triaxials are smaller than the stock 6.5" speakers, so my next step will probably be to cut a sheet steel adapter that will mount using the four screws that secure the stock speakers and accept the triaxials.

I just thought it odd that no one who upgraded mentioned having mounting issues.

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unlucky

I still haven't upgraded the front speakers, just haven't had the time, money and effort to start! Would 6.75" fit? Or are your 6.5" offbrand and not exactly 6.5" mounting brackets?

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More like the iO is "non-standard"

By definition, a 6.5" speaker should measure 6.5" across the outer edge of the frame - the problem is that this specifies neither the size of the cone nor the size of the cut-out required to clear the basket that houses the cone.  Most 6.5" speakers will have their mounting holes on a 6.125" circle - both of the speakers I have match these criteria - but one, the Blaupunkt, has a larger cone and basket and basket is too large for the car it was purchased for.

If you look a few posts up, GuyG has pictures of the OEM speakers, which have a cone size similar to that of a 6.5 speaker, but the mounts are well outside the 6.5 diameter of the frame.

Mounting a standard 6.5 speaker requires a "semi-rectangular" plate to mount to the four screws with an inner cut out to clear the basket of the chosen speaker - I plan to cut that from thin galvanized sheet and then add a layer of "dynamat" style sound deadning material.

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memory lane

I have a feeling those generic "semi square" plastic mounting brackets may not work.  From memory the factory screw holes are not in the same place to mount that bracket.

 

As I said above, I drilled new holes to mount the speaker and before fitting I ran a layer of butyl around the underside of the speaker frame to seal it down on the door to prevent damp ingress and improve sound quality.......less vibration.

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Speakers are in ...

I made the adapters and then discovered that the screws holding the speakers to the adapters would hit the metal of the door, so I ended up using the adapters as templates to drill mounting holes and screwing the adapters to the door - I will need to add dynamat or similar sound deadning material to the inside of the door skin as there is a slight "buzz", more audible outside the car than in.

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