Tailgate will not open

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Paolo5
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My partner's iO has a tailgate door that will not open. It used to work properly but has been inoperative now for a month or so. The lever in the lock mechanism (that you lift up with your 4 fingers) that is normally in the 'down' position (that you lift up to open the tailgate) is stuck in the 'up' position.

 

I have tried unlocking with the key to activate the central locking in both front doors and in the tailgate...I can hear the central locking making a sound inside the tailgate but the lever stays in the 'up' position.

 

The central locking that was operated using the key remote has not worked properly for over a year. It is as if the tailgate lock remains in the locked mode regardless of what the central locking does.

 

Has anyone else had this problem and knows what the fix could be?

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Hi there, I've got a similar

Hi there,

I've got a similar problem in that the latch handle for the rear door has broken and now i cannot open the door. There is no interior door handle. I've managed to locate a second hand handle but can anyone help with how to open the door. The interior door card appears to be only removable when the door is open as it locks into the rear glass. I know that the metal lever inside the door is above the opening behind the tail lights but I cannot seem to be able to get any sort of tool through this space to pull the lever dor to open the door.  Please can anyone help? Ralph

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How I would approach this ...

I would get a right angled pick and attempt to slip it under the plastic door card and use that to pull it free - I've had it off a few times and as far as I can remember it is only held in place by plastic clips.and is not attached to the rear glass in any way.

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Thanks Fordem I've had a good

Thanks Fordem I've had a good look at the door card on my car and it is definetly clipped into the glass, the larger Pajeros are quite different as the card can easily be removed. I can see the metal catch but cannot seem to find a way to pull it done from the hole behind the tail light. Suggestions on a "special tool" would help.

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Ho Bob_Oz, I've got the

Ho Bob_Oz, I've got the diagrm (handle 68515) already as well as pictures of the replacement handle, the problem is getting the door open to be able to remove the door card and then replace the handle, perhaps someone has some ideas on a "special tool" to be able to pull the metal lever down from the hole in the door behind the tail light?

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in via tail light?

Ralphg wrote:

Ho Bob_Oz, I've got the diagrm (handle 68515) already as well as pictures of the replacement handle, the problem is getting the door open to be able to remove the door card and then replace the handle, perhaps someone has some ideas on a "special tool" to be able to pull the metal lever down from the hole in the door behind the tail light?

when my door is closed there isn't any way of getting in the back without pulling the door card off and accessing the lock actuator rods

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Maybe a 3 mm thick 40 mm wide flat piece of steel, cut or grind to have a small hook at the end, then slightly bend that end to offset it from the flat section. Push this down between the glass and the trim, that may work. The mentioned sizes are just an example, as I sold my io and I do not remember the gap size but I understand that the plastic trim is grabbing the metal. I don't think that a metal coat hanger will be strong enough but could also be worth a try

Another idea would be to use a hole saw to make access, patch it up with something nice later on....or just rip it and buy another trim at the wrecker, maybe check if you can find one before...they shouldn't be too expensive.

Happy io

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Let me start by "rephrasing" that earlier post ...

I'm not telling you what to do with your car, I'm telling you what I do if it were my car - you see, it's your car, and if you break something it's your responsibility, if I break something on my car, it's my responsibility - and my car, by the way, is not a "larger" Pajero, it's an H76W Pajero iO, and I will categorically state, that on my car, the plastic door card can be removed by sliding a flat blade - a putty knife works well - between the card and the door and prying it away - it is not, repeat, not, attached to the glass.

Given that the door can not be opened, it might be difficult to get a flat blade between the card and the door, which is why I suggested a right angled pick - slide the pick into the gap with the angled portion vertical, rotate 90 degrees sliding the point between the card and the door and then yank - or slip the pick in directly below the glass.

I know this will work on my car, because I tried it this morning - your car may be different.

 

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break clips

fordem wrote:

I'm not telling you what to do with your car, I'm telling you what I do if it were my car - you see, it's your car, and if you break something it's your responsibility, if I break something on my car, it's my responsibility - and my car, by the way, is not a "larger" Pajero, it's an H76W Pajero iO, and I will categorically state, that on my car, the plastic door card can be removed by sliding a flat blade - a putty knife works well - between the card and the door and prying it away - it is not, repeat, not, attached to the glass.

Given that the door can not be opened, it might be difficult to get a flat blade between the card and the door, which is why I suggested a right angled pick - slide the pick into the gap with the angled portion vertical, rotate 90 degrees sliding the point between the card and the door and then yank - or slip the pick in directly below the glass.

I know this will work on my car, because I tried it this morning - your car may be different.

 

i've used trim removal tools and found the door card lugs to be very brittle - even being careful resulted in the clips or clip lugs breaking :(  

thankfully they sell special "childrens plastic toy repair glue" here, it comes with a primer pencil and works wonders on plastic repairs - far stronger than superglue or epoxy on plastic

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Maybe I've been lucky ...

I haven't broken anything yet - the interior trim (including the door cards) I've been removing with my fingers, or, as I mentioned previously a putty knife - I do have trim removal tools.

My car has quite a bit of broken plastic on the exterior, but it came to me that way - the clips that hold the grille, the front bumper skins and so on - evidence of minor fender benders at the hands of a previous owner - which I have been "plastic welding" - using a butane powered hot knife.

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rear tail gate - how to fix (lock pivot - not handle)

YES, pull the plastic door card off at the top - it is hard to prize off but it can be done. you will likely break some plastic clips but these can be repaired once door is opened.

Peel back the plastic sheet behind the handle and you will get access to the problem.

There is a pivot pin on the inside of the door that needs some grease - it relays the handle movement to the door latch via a rod.

What happens is once the rear door is locked, the central locking disables the outer handle and makes the handle feel up.
Without grease on the relay pin the rod cannot fall back to the unlocked position and the outer handle cannot be re-engaged when unlocked as it sticks in the locked position.

Mine was caked in dry grease and dust.

 

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Hi all, many thanks for all

Hi all, many thanks for all the info on the rear door problem that I had, have managed to get the card off (broke a few clips) and have gained access to the lever to open the door. Now can go ahead and get the replacment handle for the broken one and put it all together with a new plastic dust sheet. Again many thaks to all who pointed me in the right direction to get this job done.

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Great success!

A big thanks from Mary (owner) and from me too!

 

The skin pulled away easily just with my fingers and no clips were harmed in the process. I sprayed some silicone onto linkages and the mechanism now works. I will grease the linkages tomorrow (in daylight) and re-attatch the inner plastic sheet and the skin.

 

Again...BIG THANKS to contributors!!

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