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Daniel
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found theis website for underbody skid plates and sidesteps for lwb and swb. check it out. they ship to oz too...

http://www.tessera4x4.gr/ProductSearch.php?Manufacturer=19&Model=27&type...

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more

Another item to add to the want list.  This car is going to send me broke!

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I feel you brother

I feel you brother

Cheers 4 eers

Sold: Pajero IO 1.6 3 door

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Greek bash plates

Not sure if this is old news but I just found this page of info about a Greek Pinin:
http://www.m1911.org/pinin.htm

Which has a rather nice looking bash plate setup:
http://www.m1911.org/images/pinin/skidplates.jpg

Claude io
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greek bash plate

This is the site that got me to fit the BFG A/T on my car, like 80 000km ago. So yes it is an old one but still great:) Don't you love these bash plates?

Happy io.

Sem Loção 4WD
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Skid PLates

Under protections are absolutely necessary in Brazil...

Not only we run on rocky trails but our streets are a huge raid experience...

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Claude io
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bolt

You have 4 bolts with a conical head, do you have more info on them? They would be great again rock impact....

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ktm300
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I'll have to extend mine further back.

At least to the crossmember.

Never had an impact back there but it's sure to come.

 

 

 

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Sem Loção 4WD
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Bolts

Claud io wrote:

You have 4 bolts with a conical head, do you have more info on them? They would be great again rock impact....

Happy io.

Hey Claud,

They are made by a friend of mine, Octávio, and I'm sure he could make some for you... 

Sent you a PM

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Claude io
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which alloy?

I am getting some quote to buy some aluminium sheet to build a bash plate, not only they cost a lot but one supplier asked me if I wanted the standard residential type, the 6505 or an even more expensive type of alloy called structural type, the 5083. The lady at the counter could not tell me the difference or advise me what to use, except that a full sheet is cheaper than half!!!. I haven't found much on the net.

Does anyone know a bit more?

A full sheet of 5mm of  5083 is around $150 more expensive than the 6505.

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3mm stainless

I can get a full sheet of stainless for cheap, recon 3mm would be ok or too thin? Mild steel would be too thin at 3mm but stainless might be tougher

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NZIO
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stainless

I was wondering about stainless too - certainly prettier, but I wondered if it's brittleness would be an issue for doing the folds, and then how it would stand up to bending back into shape if that was needed.

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Mine

Mine's are made of stainless steel, 3mm.

I can't remember precisely  the source, but the question I saw on another board (Suzuki) was that stainless steel x aluminium alloy, at same thickness: aluminium 4x lighter, steel 10x stronger... 

But... I could be wrong.. ;)

One thing I say i that we have a lot of rocky trails around here and my underbody has suffered a lot, it has two minos dents, nothing serious...

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Mine is fine

My 3mm galvanised mild steel plate held the full weight of my front corner on a rock, with only a small dent/scratch.

3mm stainless would be great :)

Size is not important; it's how you use it that matters!

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underbody protection

Stainless steel is nice, 3 mm is not perfect but it is close too and it will be 10 time better than the original bash plate, of course if you go thicker it will be bullet proof but  but I THINK that you will, then, have a very heavy bbq plate. Stainless steel is a pain to cut! (if you do it yourself)

Aluminium 5 or6 mm is not as nice, will scratch easily but it is much lighter and easier to work with. I am getting 2 plates like Daniel (Brazil) and that is what I am going to use.

Steel is easy to work with, will be the best to put back to shape if needed and can be very cheap, again in 3mm it is much better than the original.

I never done one before, this is just an input. I choose aluminium because I tend to focus a bit too much on trying to not add extra weight to the car. They are all good... with different qualities.

As always, I can be wrong.....

 

Happy io

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bash plate weight estimate

Just out of curiosity I found a site to estimate the weight of the bash plate in different material.

Rough estimate! and not all steel, alloy, have the same weight.

aluminium 6 mm, 8kg

steel 3 mm, 12kg

steel 5 mm, 20kg

These are just for the engine section.

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stainless no go

turns out my 2400mmx1200mmx3mm sheet of stainless is actually 1.6mm thick :(

ah well i've always wanted a stainless topped workbench :)

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Here's my effort

Hi guys...especially Claudio and Daniel who were asking to be kept informed on my bash plate.

Well I picked it up today.  Cost me $240 all up ($120 of that was drafting fees to get it from cardboard onto CAD).

This is 5mm thick stainless, however at 17kgs, it's on the heavy side.  I'm actually seriously considering getting it redone in 3mm. ?????? 17kgs / 5mm = 3.4kg per mm.  Hence 3mm would be around 10.2 kgs.

Either way, I'm going to ask the guy if he kept the CAD file, that way if others are interested, they could probably get one for under $120 ...cheaper if they go thinner too I suppose.  Made by an engineering firm in Adelaide.

Holes drilled by myself to ensure they were spot on.  (The plastic wrap is still on part of it here in this pic.)

See what you think.

Fab io.

 

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Claude io
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bash plate

Heavy, yes, but very, very nice and strong, the "pajero io" looks great. I love it:)yes

Happy io

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Weight

As they say in motorbike racing, you could spend thousands to take a kilo off the weight of the bike, or you could take a dump before the race ;)

 

6 or 7 kilos is not much in a 1300kg vehicle. The only time you'd notice that is when taking it off for cleaning / servicing. The re-fitting would be the difficult part.

Size is not important; it's how you use it that matters!

Daniel
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I love it. i love it so much

I love it. i love it so much i would drive to adelaide to pick it up myself. $120-240 for a custom made plate is a dream price.

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Super!

indeed, FAB... this plate is superb!!!

just wandering... a "Pajero TR4" like this one you got..

 

BTW, talking about weight.... One has to wash the skid plate sometimes... LOL

Mine one week after a "mud" advendure...

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Design it right ...

natsterrr wrote:

The only time you'd notice that is when taking it off for cleaning / servicing. The re-fitting would be the difficult part.

Build it right and there will be little need to remove it - ever notice the factory pan has an access hole to get to the drain plug?  Too bad they didn't put one so you could reach the filter.

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Lazy me...

fordem wrote:

natsterrr wrote:

The only time you'd notice that is when taking it off for cleaning / servicing. The re-fitting would be the difficult part.

Build it right and there will be little need to remove it - ever notice the factory pan has an access hole to get to the drain plug?  Too bad they didn't put one so you could reach the filter.

 

The designer is a friend of mine, and the absence of the hole was on pourpose....LOL... He was a former test designer and test driver from Mitsubishi, Suzuki and GM here in Brazil, and saw lots of damage thru the weakest point of the plate, the acess hole..... according to him, is where the plate bends and damage lower strucutres of the engine.... Yes, it sucks, :( I have to take it off (the fornt piece) everytime I replace the oil/filters.... but I think it´s fair for the portection..

 

This pic I took I was displacing the  plate to search for the porblem in the vacuum lines that got my 4WD light flashing after the diff drop.... I poste the pic on FB and imeddiately he (the designer) conatcted me... "Daniel, you KNOW ther are specific lateral holes to clean up the mud when you go back form trail!"... LOL.. shame on lazy me... 

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Thanks guys, I'm glad you

Thanks guys,

I'm glad you like it.  The laser cut wording has its benifits too.  Allows for a little airflow over the sump and also acts as an access hole for the  pressure cleaner.

I'm going to speak to my contact at the engineerig firm on Monday, but there is a good chance that he still has it on CAD.  If that's the case, I'm guessing that $120 (plus postage) should get you one in 5mm stainless steel, and maybe a bit cheaper if you go say 3mm which is still more than adequate..

If they're up to it, I'll post their contact details on here.

Fab.

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CAD

Any chance of getting a copy of the CAD file? Shipping one from Oz to NZ would be pricey. :)

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Can only ask.

Howdy NZio,

Can only ask.  I'm not sure how anal they are about intellectual rights etc.  I don't think it would be a problem.  It's not like it's a copyrighted design or anything, it's basically just a replica of a traced out version of the OEM one minus the curved sections around the rear holes....mine just follows the line of the crossmember.

Fab.

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Theoretically

Since you paid for the time to draw it - it's yours and you can do what you want with it.

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yes...

fordem wrote:

Since you paid for the time to draw it - it's yours and you can do what you want with it.

 

Agree...

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expense

NZIO wrote:
Any chance of getting a copy of the CAD file? Shipping one from Oz to NZ would be pricey. :)

Try Oz to the Uk !!

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bash plate

Having the same laser cut wording on a 3 mm plate, wouldn't it become a weak point?. A painted engraving might be a better option.

I agree about the CAD file, but they still could charge you for the time to put it on a CD, I would be happy to have it too!

Happy io

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Likewise... I don't mind paying something. Just a thought though - for me the design needs to fit with a 25mm diff drop so the cad file will need tweaking anyway.

Daniel - is your design available on CAD?

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Very nice. Very

Very nice.

Very professional.

Well done.

 

 

 

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Love the bash plates SEM

Love the bash plates SEM LOÇÃO ! any chance of a CAD file for those?! :)

Looks like you have a higher gearbox cross member than we do. we have a round bar that hangs quite low, looks like they did a better job either in brazil or on latter models with the higher rectangle tube I see on yours.

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I believe the round tube is early model only.

Check with Claude - I think his car has the rectangular transmission crossmember.

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Transmission crossmember

Confirmed....

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Glen wrote:

Love the bash plates SEM LOÇÃO ! any chance of a CAD file for those?! :)

Looks like you have a higher gearbox cross member than we do. we have a round bar that hangs quite low, looks like they did a better job either in brazil or on latter models with the higher rectangle tube I see on yours.

 

Thanks Glen!

In fact they are not my design, but a friends... Octavio run a home-based shop only for 4WD gear... perhaps he could help with some CAD?

 

Here are his contact data

 

Octávio 
(19) 3207-1974
Nextel 120*4797
(19)7803-5229
road.tech@hotmail.com

 

just put (+55) before zone code, I believe he speakes english very well

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bash plate design

I just found this on utube...I like the rear section

http://youtu.be/j2q1FhyOyzI 

Happy io

 

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Hey! Do you still have the

Hey! Do you still have the CAD file for this? could you email it to me on eshuchiz@gmail.com?

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Done!

Emailed you the CAD file and PDF mate, should be from its_simmo@hotmail.com 

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cad file

Hi, could you send me too Cad file please.. :) mertoben@yahoo.com

thanx

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